Plants ordered today will begin shipping in May of 2024

Elderberry, European Black (Black Elderberry) (Sambucus nigra) potted shrub, organic

$21.00

Family:  Honeysuckle (Caprifoliaceae)

Hardy to Zones 4 to 8

(Black Elder, Elder Berry, European Black Elderberry) Perennial, deciduous, multistemmed shrub to small tree native to Europe.  Wild form.  The berries are large and tasty. Traditional usage (TWM): Colds, flu, immune enhancement.  Source of anthocyanins, bioflavonoids, vitamins and antioxidants. The syrup, tincture or glycerite of these berries is excellent for treating the common cold and for overall increase in immunity.  Elderberries prefer rich, moist soil in the part shade to sun.  They are best placed as an understory to a higher tree canopy. Cage to protect from deer during first few years of growth.  Elderberries appreciate frequent watering and spring application of nitrogen-rich compost or composted manure, applied within the dripline.  Space trees 15 feet apart.
Potted shrub, 2-year-old, from seed, 4-inch pot, certified organically grown

 

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  1. Question

    popina72

    Hi,
    Are these self fertile or do you need to have 2?

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      Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Popina, Thanks for writing! Although you’ll get a decent berry set with 1, you get even more if yuou have 2 or 3. They don’t have to be different species. Richo

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    Richo Cech

    hi betty, it really depends on how you prune them, how much moisture and nitrogen they get, whether they’re in the shade or sun, etc. The ones we grow here reach about 15 feet tall and equally as wide. thats why we recommend spacing them at 15 feet apart. richo

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    • Tina Giles

      How long will it be before fruit when buying shrub instead of seeds? Thank you!

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Tina,
      At this point our shrubs are 2 plus years old from seed. that means buying the plant saves you 3 years over planting from seeds, due to the fact that it takes the seeds about 6 months to come up, so that needs to be added into the equation. How long does it take an elderberrry to produce flowers and seeds? That is dependent on local conditions and cultivation techniques. I planted some of our sturdy plants and kept them well-manured and moist in the shade and they flowered and fruited in the second year after planting. People living in the humid midwest might find them flowering in the first year. richo

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  3. Question

    Karen

    I live in Maine eould I keep this potted until the spring or plant it now in the fall? Thank you

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Karen,
      I think in the colder zones it makes more sense to plant to landscape in the spring. Yes, you can keep it potted up and left in a sheltered location like cold greenhouse to overwinter, then plant in the spring when the buds swell. r

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  4. Question

    JACQUELINE BUSTAMANTE

    I would like to purchase a Black Elderberry shrub but not sure if this would make it in the temperatures we have….currently 102 in Las Cruces, NM would this make it….this is the only shrub I really want for it’s medicinal uses….thank you….

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      Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hi jacqueline, elderberry is both heat and drought tolerant once established. it will need to be watered and shaded for starters. yes, hot right now, that’s why we aren’t shipping until september! i recommend our elderberries, they are very robust in 9 inch pots. richo

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  5. Question

    martha apaza (verified owner)

    I got my elderberry plants. Says to plant in gallon pot until size doubles. Plants look very healthy and happy. We have mid 70s during day and 50s at night. Dare I plant directly in ground?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Martha, Those are the general directions that come with every plant. The black elderberry are too big to go in a gallon pot, they can be transplanted right out. Make sure to give it shade and rich, moist soil. Richo

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  6. Question

    martha apaza

    Hello,
    I have two young American elderberry plants. I read they like to be at least in pairs. Should I get two Europeans and plant elsewhere or can I just purchase one and place it in the proximity of the Americans?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi MArtha, thanks for writing. its complex. Bottom line elderberries are grudgingly self-fertile and do best when cross pollinated by a similar plant of different parentage. But american and european are too dissimilar in my opinion. Better to let the 2 americans cross pollinate and plant 3 black elderberries some distance away. There’s a great deal more on this in my book “Growing Plant Medicine” vol 2 which I hope to be able to offer early next year. Richo

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    • Sandra Golightly

      I’m reading through these comments. In Zone 8a and wanting to plant Sambucas Nigra. Do I understand correctly that I need to purchase 2 of the plants?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Sandra,
      Thanks for writing. You can purchase just one plant if you want–we have no minimums. The European black elderberry is self-fertile and one plant will produce flowers and fruits. However, more fruits can be expected if several are grown in close proximity. i normally plant in groups of 3 (or more). richo

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  7. Question

    Amanda (verified owner)

    Do these flowers have the gorgeous fragrance, unlike the American variety? I lived in Croatia where they thrive on the sides of roads and we make Elderflower cordial from the strongly scented flowers.

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hello amanda, thanks for writing, and for schooling us on the relative olfactory merits of the different species (or subspecies, as the geneticists claim) of elderberry. Yes, what you’re getting here is the wild form European black elderberry, and the flowers have a gorgeous fragrance. richo

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  8. Question

    Elizabeth

    Hi!
    So excited to find quality elderberry trees! I live on a suburban lot in zone 5a in Wisconsin so no higher tree canopy available. Could I plant in the partial shade of a garage on my property or is full sun the better option? Also so much of my research has said elderberries need a different type for pollination (i.e. Adams&Johns) will I be ok getting 2 of these trees or do I need something in addition?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hello elizabeth, thanks for writing. I’m surprised there are still black elderberry trees available for sale. They are almost sold out. I do think it makes sense to choose the shady spot, and make sure to compost generously around the tree, and keep it moist. As for various info around the web about the need for pollinator species in elderberry, much of this is echo information from people who don’t actually grow wild form Sambucus nigra. You can check the thread below, but in any case, in short, one tree by itself will self-pollinate and having more trees is helpful in terms of fuller berry set. I always plant these in 3’s. Richo

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    • Carol

      I want to plant elderberry trees on our 1/4 acre but it is likely we will move in the next 2 years. Are they able to be transplanted at that time or maybe a grafting from any tree that I start here? What do you recommend? I love your videos and teachings. Thank you. Carol

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Carol, Thanks for contacting. I can relate to this because I moved several times in the old days and while other people were thinking about rocking chairs and bookshelves, I was digging up bushes and trees. 2-year-old elderberry trees are small enough to dig up. It is far more efficient to work with something that already has roots instead of trying to root cuttings in the midst of it. Richo

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    Kathleen Marshall

    How tall is a 2 year old plant, and how long will it take for them to produce (zone 5b)?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Kathleen, thanks for getting in touch. The plants are in 9-inch deep pots and the median height is 1 foot. I had the pleasure of planting several of the same lot of plants this spring and although they didn’t flower, they sized up nicely and will flower next year. r

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  10. Question

    Carla

    I want to order a couple of Elderberry trees for this fall. I’m in zone 6a. Do I need to go ahead and plant them in the ground when they arrive in September or can I leave them in a pot outside over the winter and plant in the spring?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hi carla, thanks for writing. my concern is that if these are planted to pots and left outdoors they might get too cold on the root zone. If you had an unheated greenhouse then yes, pot to a 3-gallon pot and leave on a bench in the greenhouse. but lacking that, maybe better to plant to the landscape, mulch generously, and cage or stake to mark. they should overwinter that way–they’re hardy down to z 3. richo
      ps these are going to be sold out very soon

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    • Carla Thompson

      I do not have a greenhouse unfortunately. I have a very sunny room attached to the garage, but that probably would not be good enough as it only has windows on three sides. If I buy these now, will I be charged now or in September when they ship? I would like to get three trees, but can I get a decent harvest from two trees as they are fairly expensive with shipping.

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Carla, thanks for keeping in touch. We charge the card right away when the plants are ordered and ship when the high temps mellow out in September. If an ideal spot is located for the tree/bush, and organic fertilizer is applied in the early spring, and the plant is kept watered, then 2 trees would probably be plenty for your purposes. I am concerned that you may not have a good setup for overwintering and cannot guarantee that the plants will overwinter. You might want to wait and see what we have available in the spring. richo

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    • Carla Thompson

      But if I go ahead and plant it outdoors, it should be fine, correct? I see there is another place in TN that ships their elderberry trees in Nov/Dec also but it is not the type that I want and would prefer what you have. I read that it takes up to 5 years before the tree would have fruit so I am anxious to get them planted.

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      should be fine, that was my experience, and unlike most places on web i speak only from experience, read the thread below for more info

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    • Ka

      Anyone tried growing these in zone 8?
      We are zone 8b, but on top of a hill and in a wooded area, so plenty of shade. I’ll try either way, just hoping someone else has already and maybe theyd share some tips?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hello ka, yes, we’re here in a zone 8 and are self-sufficient on european black elderberry–the trees you’re looking at are grown here from our own seeds. the tip is to keep the tree in the shade and fertilize well with cow manure or the like. water deeply weekly. richo

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  11. Question

    Anastacia Cilione

    Hi, is it possible to keep in a container for a year?

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      Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hi anastasia, yes and i think these will be enabled in september so please hit waitlist. r

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  12. Question

    Emily Zadoretzky (verified owner)

    We ordered and received 2 trees and I’m wondering if we need to plant these 15 feet apart from each other or if they may be closer and 15 feet from other plants?

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      Richo Cech

      Hello Emily,
      Hi Emily, ok, a lucky recipient of my carefully tended trees! The 15 foot apart designation is based on the spread of the mature tree. The actual landscape has to be taken into account, and it is better to give these shade of an overstory tree–that’s how they grow in nature. If you plant close to another tree, its going to reach out and find its own crown. Definitely give it at least 6 feet so the roots don’t compete too much. r

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    • Emily (verified owner)

      Thank you! We are definitely lucky to receive them!

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  13. Question

    Kristine

    Hello, these are out of stock at the moment. Will you have more available this growing season? Thanks!

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  14. Question

    B

    Hi, do these come with planting guides? What materials should we have on hand prior to planting? Do you have recommended soil nutrient levels? Trying to plan amendments needed and soil drainage requirements. The university extension will provide soil test with recommendations based on needs for American Elderberry. Will that be good also for European black? Thanks for all your help!

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hello B, if you double-click on the picture you get the monograph that has the planting guide: Elderberries prefer rich, moist soil in the part shade to sun.  They are best placed as an understory to a higher tree canopy. Cage to protect from deer during first few years of growth.  Elderberries appreciate frequent watering and spring application of nitrogen-rich compost or composted manure, applied within the dripline.  Space trees at least 15 feet apart.

      In answer to your question about Sambucus canadensis vs. S. nigra, actually, no, they require different conditions.

      richo

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  15. Question

    Dd

    Hello, I live in NW Wisconsin, zone 3/4. What is the best elderberry for this zone? Ps- thank you for all you grow and share!

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      Richo Cech

      Hello Dd, Elderberry growers tend to have more problems with HEAT than COLD. The European Black Elderberry is hardy to your zone and is the only one we have available in tree form. I recommend it, it is the most time-tested in terms of medicinality and contains a unique antiviral protein. Richo

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  16. Question

    Layle

    Hi I am in deep East Texas, am I able to keep these trees in pots until January or February?

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      Richo Cech

      Hi Layle, These will not be shipped to the warmer states, of which texas is one, until March of 2022. Since they are potted trees, they do not need to be transplanted during dormancy, they will transplant fine. richo

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    • Natalie

      Hello! Does this plant self-pollinate or are two trees required for cross-pollination? What is the height/width of a mature tree? When will this ship? I live in Denver, CO and am hoping to receive it in the spring of next year. Thank you!

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Natalie,
      You’ve got it about right. The trees are self-fertile but it helps to have several (they’re seedgrown, by the way) to fully pollinate. If you order in time to get one, it will ship in April of 2022. Richo

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  17. Question

    Mary DiPierro

    I live in SWFL zone 10a/b. Will this be ok planted or can i grow in container.

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      Richo Cech

      Hi Mary, you can grow this as a potted plant in the shade. richo

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    • Mary Dipierro

      Thank you. What size n type if soil? I am so so new at containers!

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      Richo Cech

      Hi MAry, These trees are already deeply rooted, you want to choose a container that is big enough for the whole root as it is and then some room for it to grow more. I would choose organic potting soil with a slightly acidic pH and make sure you top dress with organic compost in the spring and summer months. Use a 5 gallon pot minimum. Richo

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  18. Question

    cheryl alexander

    is there a market to farm the elderberry berries to sell?? for a small farm??

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      Richo Cech

      hi cheryl, yes, elderberry is in great demand. r

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    • Wendy

      Does this need a companion plant of a different type to grow elderberries?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Wendy, Our seed-grown elderberry trees are self-fertile but they do make a better fruit set when pollinated by another seed-grown elderberry of the same type. We know this because we have experimented with growing them in isolation and they still make fruit, but the ones that are grown communally are a bit more productive. Anything can happen, I recommend buying 3. These are going to sell out very rapidly, do not hesitate! Richo

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  19. Question

    Gwen Scott

    Can I grow these in Leesville South Carolina near a pond?

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      Richo Cech

      Hi Gwen, looks nice and shady, you have a lovely spot there. That’s important for elderberry. They also like a well-manured soil, so you can do that, at the surface, around the trunk out to the dripline, after you plant. Our current status on black elderberry 9 inch is that we’ll be enabling this for spring delivery only after Jan 1, 2022. Therefore, I advise you to hit “waitlist.” richo

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  20. Question

    Denise Nachtigal

    I live in South Dakota so my yard is pretty flat. I see these “are best placed as an understory to a higher tree canopy”. I only have a few mature trees on my property that provide any shade. Will these survive in a lot of sun and just do better in part shade, or will a lot of sun have a sever negative impact? Also, how large do these normally grow?

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      Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      these are currently out of stock although we will have them again come spring. the extremes of weather in S. Dakota make growing european elderberry a chancy choice. I suggest maybe raspberries a better choice. r

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  21. Question

    KRISTIE LAVIGNE

    Which elderberry can be grown in Florida. And do you sell them?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Kristie, My guess is that Sambucus mexicana (which is currently considered a subspecies of S. nigra) might be your best choice–it is the most southerly ranging type–we sometimes have seeds for this, stay in touch. Richo

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    • Pd

      What Sambucus migraine varieties do you sell. I want to use it to make elderberry syrup for boosting immune system. Do we need 2 sambucus nigra varieties?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hello pd, we don’t have any sambucus migraines but we do have organic european black elderberries for sale. Also elderberry seeds, and you can git the waitlist for elderberry trees that are going to ship out spring 2022. richo

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  22. Question

    Lisaann Sobieralski

    I live in eastern North Carolina. Will Elderberry grow here? I’m zone 7. If I start from seed, how long does it take for the plant to produce fruit?

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      Richo Cech

      Hello Lisaann,
      Yes, elderberry grows well in e NC. It is very challenging to grow this plant from seed unless you’re used to the “sow in the fall for germination in the spring” scenario, in which case the germination biology follows the usual pattern. It takes a year to get any wood at all, another year to get up past the grasses and probably flowers in the third year. Richo

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  23. Question

    Gladys

    Can the Elderberry bush be pruned back to keep it at a smaller size?

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      Hi Gladys,
      Elderberries have opposing buds all the way from ground level to tip and can be pruned anywhere along the stem. Make your cut just above a set of buds. Once they really get going, they are a bit hard to stop, though.
      Richo

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  24. Question

    Mary DiPierro

    I live in SWFL, will this grow ok if kept potted n on a lani? You stated up to zone 9….i am zone 10a

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  25. Question

    Shims veneer

    Do you anticipate having these for spring 2021 shipping??

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      Hello Shims, Thanks for contacting. We are going to enable these one more time this year. We have to fulfill existing orders and see how the inventory shakes down. We will have more, probably quite a few more. Hit “waitlist” and when you get the e-mail jump on it.
      Richo

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  26. Question

    Amy Wells

    Out of stock for March mailings?

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      probably not. Depends on winter survivability of potted stock–will enable more when we’re sure. hit waitlist. richo

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  27. Question

    Erica

    Could you explain the differences between the 2 elderberry trees?

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      Hi! Shortly, yes, the European type is more of a tree and the American type is more of a bush. The berries of the European form are somewhat superior to those of the American form. In terms of taxonomy, scientists are currently placing all the elderberries as subspecies of Sambucus nigra. Richo

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    scott

    When will more become available do you think? Thanks!

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  29. Question

    kaitlyn

    How far away would ypu reccomend planting elderberry from my house?

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      Hi Kaitlyn,
      Elderberry will appreciate the shade of a house and the roots won’t mess with your foundation. Give it 6 feet or so.
      Richo

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    • Julie Towers

      how many years till berrys come on?

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      Hi Julie,
      That kind of thing depends on a lot of variables but my estimate is 3 to 5 years under the best circumstances.
      Richo

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    • Rochelle r Kearney

      Good morning
      I currently have a black lace elderberry busk in a container, in oder for this one to fruit it needs a partner it says it needs a black lady elderberry bush, can i plant this one next to it in a container and will that make the other one fruit? I hope I explained that to make sense.. lol

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      Hi Rochelle,
      YEs, evenb self-fertile trees really love to cross-pollinate. Hit “waitlist” on black elderberry, we’re in the process of growing out a new population and will offer them upo for sale when they size-up. It is the result of planting black elderberry seeds last year–they eventually do make plants!
      Richo

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    • Courtney

      DO you know when the euro sambusus will be ready in 2020?

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      Richo Cech

      Hi Courtney,
      Seedling Euro Sambucus will probably start selling again Sep 1 2020.
      Richo

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    • Nancy

      I have heard that elderberry plant has to be planted with another elderberry plant to give fruit is that true?

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      Hi Nancy,
      All trees fruit better when growing in association with other trees of the same or closely-related type. However our wild-form European Black Elderberry is self-fertile and will reproduce if planted singly–I’ve tested it–its true–despite all the armchair botanists out there that will claim differently.
      Richo

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    • erin

      What size are these? If I want a shrub that will be about 5′ tall in a few years, best to go with a standard nursery 10 gallon plant?

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      Hi Erin,
      Yes, it would be good to buy as large a plant as possible. Our starters will take 3 or 4 years to size up. I don’t know of anyone actually selling large potted plants of real Sambucus nigra. I do think you could find some of the specialty Sambucus that are out there. Richo

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  30. Question

    Lori

    Does this plant need a pollinator? If so, which do you have available?

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      Hello Lori,
      They do not need a pollinator. I know this because at one of our farms we have a single Black Elderberry that produces plenty of good fruit and seeds every year without a pollinator. That said, every tree likes cross-pollination with other closely related trees, so it is really best to plant these in 3’s.
      Richo

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    • Elle

      I believe this is the species my neighbor’s planted about 4 years ago and now they are about 12 ft high. Can I propagate from them… or do they need to be grown from seed?

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      Hello Elle,
      You can make cuttings of 2-year-old wood in the fall and stick them in sand. They will root over the winter and can be potted up in the spring. The method for doing this is more accurately described in “The Medicinal Herb Grower.” Richo

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  31. Question

    Julie M Thompson

    Can you grow the black elderberry plants in a container for the first year? What about 2 years? Thank you

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      Julie, Yes, this is not only possible but advised. richo

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    • ASHLEY MAPLE

      I was wondering the same thing as we will be moving in two years. Thank you.

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      Hi Ashley,
      Black elderberry can readily be container-grown for the first few years. It is actually advised to do this, as they are pansies and need all the working up we can give them.
      Richo

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  32. Question

    Nikoleta keller

    I love in hardiness zone 6a. If I order these plants now do you suggest I plant them this year before the Frost or keep them in pot over the winter. Inside or outside?

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      Hello Nikoleta,
      These are small seedlings. If you have a greenhouse, I would transplant the seedling up to a gallon and put it in the greenhouse and let it go naturally dormant. After it puts on about 6 inches of growth the following spring, it would be OK to plant out to the landscape. Lacking a greenhouse, get one of our potted gallon-size plants in the spring. They will be $60.00.
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  33. Question

    Kat Skye

    do elderberries require planting more than one plant for pollination?

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    Kim

    Hi, I am in northern WI. So I will be wintering this elderberry indoors now, or after summer next year. So when do you suggest I buy this tree?

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    Bobbi

    I live in zone 9B. I am looking at your potted Elderberry trees. If I were to order this now, could I immediately plant outside, the season?

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      Hi Bobbi,
      Maybe not such a good idea. These are small seedlings and have only one year of growth. My recommendation would be to pot to a gallon and grow on until sufficiently large to survive on the landscape.
      Richo

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    Beth

    Hi,
    I live in Zone 6b and would like to purchase the plant now and grow indoor over the winter until I can plant it outside next spring. Is that doable? I have no greenhouse, only a bay window.
    Also, Is this plant the one that is named “Marge”?

    Thanks

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      Hi Beth,
      The elderberry would need to go dormant over the winter and wouldn’t go dormant if brought indoors. Our European black elderberries aren’t named “Marge” I don’t think. It would probably be best to get a plant from us in the spring.
      Richo

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    mary

    When is the best time to plant elderberry bushes in Vermont ?
    Im wondering if I could plant now or if its best to wait until spring
    also I have heard you need two bushes of different types of elderberry to pollinate
    thank you
    mary

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      Hi Mary,
      If you had a large potted bush you could plant it right now outdoors and it would have time to root in and bud before winter. But if you’re thinking of getting one of our potted plants, they cannot be done this way, as they are too small. They need to be planted up to a gallon on receipt and grown on that way for a year or more before transplanting. The black elderberry are self-fertile.
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      mary

      thank you..yes I was thinking of getting one of yours.
      will it survive the winter in a gallon bucket if I purchase one now?

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      Mary, It might not, I suggest you get one in the spring, we will still have them I think and they will be just that much woodier and more likely to do well in a spring transplant. richo

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  38. Question

    Nicole Deardorf

    How old is this plant when it is shipped? Is it ready to produce fruit or not yet?

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      Hi Nicole,
      These are young seedlings as of summer 2019. They must be potted up to gallons on receipt and grown on for a couple of years before fruit may be expected. Large european black elderberries in fruit would cost significantly more.
      r

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    • Liz Slowik

      I hear that elderberry is invasive. Can I grow it in a pot and if so how big and does it need support? Also we get very
      hot summers (zone 9b) so does it need some shade?

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      Elderberry doesn’t do well in pots after the first couple of years when it is usually grown in 1 to 3 gallon pots. They like to be planted out to cool, moist shade and rich soil. They are not invasive. r

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    • Willow Whyte Lynch

      I think you mean the European Black Elders are not invasive. The American Elder (S canadensis) will pop up all over the place! 🤣❤️

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      Richo Cech

      the american black elderberry is rhizomatous and acts more like a cane berry than a tree. we like the tree-form european black elderberries better. r

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    Melanie Brown

    How long does Elder take to fully mature?

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      I planted a 2-year-old seedling to the field 3 years ago and it produced a lot of berries this year, so in that case, 5 years. Elderberries grow really fast, and one of the techniques for growing them is to cut back to the crown in the fall of the year. Then, they shoot up about 8 feet and make berries the next year. But this method presupposes a sufficiently well sized plant, which will take some years to establish. Plant some, the years rush forward, and there is no time like now.

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      Fielder, Carolyn

      Do elderberries grow and produce in zone 8a?

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      Yes, if you choose Sambucus mexicana. I note that our Sambucus nigra are listed to zone 7 only.

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    • Kathryn

      I purchased two of these from you 3 maybe 4 years ago and every year it gets maybe 6′ tall and bushy looking but then in the summer- before it ever has a chance to flower- it dies back to the ground. It sprouts back up again a few weeks later and grows a less than its initial seasonal growth but it’s never made berries or flowers. Do you know what is wrong or what I could do to try to avoid this happening again?

      PS. The first year I had it in amended clay in full sun, just missing the shade reach of the Paulownia it was under. In spring of the second or third year I transplanted it to a shadier patch under a wild cherry tree where english ivy, nettles, mayapples, calendula, yarrow are growing. It is growing in a spot of unused woodchips that had decomposed there for 2 years prior to the planting. This is where it currently sits. It still gets about 6-8 hours sun spring-fall.

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      The plant requires plenty of nitrogen especially in the spring. give chicken manure all around the base and keep it well-watered in and you won’t have these issues.

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    • crisnichole.walker

      Hi Richo,

      You mentioned cutting back to the crown in the fall – do you do this every year? Or just until they start fruiting?

      Thanks!

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      No, this is most commonly done with bushy American Black Elderberry–the European form is woodier and should not be cut back.

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    Angela Ferris

    How old are your elderberry plants?

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      We had just a few 3-year-olds in gallon pots that we listed this year. They are very nice and very close to sold out. I have a great number of seedlings coming on, it will probably be another year before we list them. Richo

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    • Rita Jensen

      So no stock will be available for spring 2019, right?

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      Looks like these are again sold out, we will have them again in spring 2020. Richo

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    • Stacey

      How big do these grow? And as seedlings, are they okay kept in pots outdoors and then moved indoors during winter months?

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      Mine seem to top out at about 20 feet tall. It is generally better to leave the plants outdoors albeit somewhat protected as opposed to indoors–they need the cold dormancy. r

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    • Linda

      I ordered one of these small trees about 3 years ago and it grows vigorously and is so happy but it has yet to produce any berries. Do you know when will my plant fruit? Or if I’m doing anything wrong? Does it need another elderberry bush?

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    • Richo Cech

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      The flowers come in the spring. The tree is probably still too young to fruit. Keep it fertilized and watered and the flowers will come, then the berries. r

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    • SarahDaffodil

      I have tried to start cuttings of elder without success. I am looking forward to established plants and nurturing their growth. Being 2 years old already, with the flower and fruit this year? Thanks

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    • Richo Cech

      Richo Cech

      hi sarah, make sure to hit waitlist on this, we will be enabling these for sale very soon. They will not make flowers this year. If given ideal conditions, they will start the flowering cycle next year.

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    • Liz

      Hi Richo, if I order these elderberry trees now for September shipment, should they be planted straight away, or kept in their containers outside until Spring? I’m in zone 5. Thanks!

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      Richo Cech

      Hi Liz,
      The conventional wisdom on this is to plant in the soil outdoors in the fall if in zones 6 through 9, and to not risk winter kill if in zones 5 and under. But if your only option is to leave it in a pot outside (instead of the recommended cold greenhouse) then you’d be better off planting and and mulching well.
      Richo

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